Comments on: Krugman and Stross Transcript http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript A Movable Feast Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:50:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Hank Roberts http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript/comment-page-1#comment-950 Hank Roberts Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:20 +0000 http://www.steussy.com/blog/?p=1867#comment-950 Did anyone get a recording or transcript of the previous night's event referred to by Peter Watts? http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=636 "'You Can Never Be Cynical Enough' …being one of my favorite quotes of the con so far, courtesy of Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman during an 80-minute Q&A on how science fiction led him into economics. ...." Did anyone get a recording or transcript of the previous night’s event referred to by Peter Watts? http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=636

“‘You Can Never Be Cynical Enough’
…being one of my favorite quotes of the con so far, courtesy of Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman during an 80-minute Q&A on how science fiction led him into economics. ….”

]]> By: w http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript/comment-page-1#comment-668 w Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:25:32 +0000 http://www.steussy.com/blog/?p=1867#comment-668 too bad you couldn't do links to paragraphs. there were sections i wanted to direct people too. but still good. hey. a design firm in SF has concepted an autonomous vehicle. true, not new, but they are the same people that designed the GPhone. http://www.mikeandmaaike.com/atnmbl.html too bad you couldn’t do links to paragraphs. there were sections i wanted to direct people too. but still good.

hey. a design firm in SF has concepted an autonomous vehicle. true, not new, but they are the same people that designed the GPhone.

http://www.mikeandmaaike.com/atnmbl.html

]]> By: idkeith http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript/comment-page-1#comment-656 idkeith Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:11:53 +0000 http://www.steussy.com/blog/?p=1867#comment-656 The Gov't cannot run anything a proper manner because those on the Gov't payroll cannot be fired, therefore they do not have to produce anything an effecient manner. They produce to cause the Gov't need to hire more in their dept to boost them up higher in pay grade. Congress writes laws, the "regulators" read Gov't workers write the rules in such a manner to create more Gov't workers. Until that basis system is changed into a economical system the Gov't will never be anything other than a black hole into which we pour money. The Gov’t cannot run anything a proper manner because those on the Gov’t payroll cannot be fired, therefore they do not have to produce anything an effecient manner. They produce to cause the Gov’t need to hire more in their dept to boost them up higher in pay grade. Congress writes laws, the “regulators” read Gov’t workers write the rules in such a manner to create more Gov’t workers. Until that basis system is changed into a economical system the Gov’t will never be anything other than a black hole into which we pour money.

]]> By: Tacoma http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript/comment-page-1#comment-648 Tacoma Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:30:56 +0000 http://www.steussy.com/blog/?p=1867#comment-648 Nice transcript. Smart folks. I'd have concerns about the plan to distribute bandwidth tax money to contect creators, because people would create garbage content and pimp it out just to generate traffic. We get that now to a horrifying degree and it doesn't even make much money for them. What if they could get four times as much? I'm thinking we'd see our spam and stupid banner ads multiplied by between 16 and 64. I never thought about the robot-car insurance angle. Where if robot cars are more predictably safer, you'd have higher premiums if you wanted to have a driver's license. Would you be able to get an Operator's License if you never drove? Or would you need a driver's license anyway because the police can't tell whether you're driving or not? Robot cars would be able to drive more optimally as well. No more slowing down to rubberneck at crashes. I've heard the "gritty sand in the hourglass" model of human traffic is a great complication, and robot driven cars would turn it into a more fluid dynamic. So maybe this would solve a lot of our congestion problems as well. And I think America needs to get over this privatization kick. Of course I trust the government to do a fine job in the post office, the fire department, schools, water supplies, traffic regulation, national parks, navigable waterways, that sort of thing. And in cases where citizens will have greater rights than others, such as the police or the military, it absolutely must be directly and completely controlled by the government. But maybe the first step to getting people to let the government run some other things (like health care, energy utilities) is to make the government more trust-worthy! That isn't an issue of technology, it's an issue of bribery, theft, abuse of power, and so forth that have been a part of politics since democratic Greece and before. Nice transcript. Smart folks. I’d have concerns about the plan to distribute bandwidth tax money to contect creators, because people would create garbage content and pimp it out just to generate traffic. We get that now to a horrifying degree and it doesn’t even make much money for them. What if they could get four times as much? I’m thinking we’d see our spam and stupid banner ads multiplied by between 16 and 64.

I never thought about the robot-car insurance angle. Where if robot cars are more predictably safer, you’d have higher premiums if you wanted to have a driver’s license.
Would you be able to get an Operator’s License if you never drove? Or would you need a driver’s license anyway because the police can’t tell whether you’re driving or not?
Robot cars would be able to drive more optimally as well. No more slowing down to rubberneck at crashes. I’ve heard the “gritty sand in the hourglass” model of human traffic is a great complication, and robot driven cars would turn it into a more fluid dynamic. So maybe this would solve a lot of our congestion problems as well.

And I think America needs to get over this privatization kick. Of course I trust the government to do a fine job in the post office, the fire department, schools, water supplies, traffic regulation, national parks, navigable waterways, that sort of thing. And in cases where citizens will have greater rights than others, such as the police or the military, it absolutely must be directly and completely controlled by the government.

But maybe the first step to getting people to let the government run some other things (like health care, energy utilities) is to make the government more trust-worthy! That isn’t an issue of technology, it’s an issue of bribery, theft, abuse of power, and so forth that have been a part of politics since democratic Greece and before.

]]> By: valuethinker http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript/comment-page-1#comment-610 valuethinker Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:57:27 +0000 http://www.steussy.com/blog/?p=1867#comment-610 Atlanta Comcast Turner/ CNN Coca Cola Lockheed - as old economy as you can get-- defence manufacturing Scientific Atlanta (Donald Rumsfeld was CEO) - now CISCO (? The Home Depot?) There are big companies in Atlanta. Note the number of media companies. What is true of Atlanta is also true of Phoenix to some extent: it is there because it is there. The explosive growth has created an industry around supporting that explosive growth. Atlanta

Comcast

Turner/ CNN

Coca Cola

Lockheed – as old economy as you can get– defence manufacturing

Scientific Atlanta (Donald Rumsfeld was CEO) – now CISCO

(? The Home Depot?)

There are big companies in Atlanta. Note the number of media companies.

What is true of Atlanta is also true of Phoenix to some extent: it is there because it is there. The explosive growth has created an industry around supporting that explosive growth.

]]> By: Phiala http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript/comment-page-1#comment-572 Phiala Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:52:23 +0000 http://www.steussy.com/blog/?p=1867#comment-572 Fascinating, thank you. The economy of Atlanta is Coca-Cola, isn't it? Fascinating, thank you.

The economy of Atlanta is Coca-Cola, isn’t it?

]]> By: Monwar http://www.steussy.com/blog/krugman-and-stross-transcript/comment-page-1#comment-557 Monwar Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:36:32 +0000 http://www.steussy.com/blog/?p=1867#comment-557 Many thanks for the transcript. Many thanks for the transcript.

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